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Linux on the HP Omnibook 800 NotebookPreface
Manufacturer SupportThe hotline of Hewlett-Packard
The HP-(Linux)-HOWTO From the access statistics I found out that 8% of the visitors are from HP now :) though the support of HP in providing infos or other kinds of sponsorship wasn't much :( I wrote to HP twice but didn't get any answer yet. You may also read the German issue (deutsche Fassung) InstallationOn my HP Omnibook 800 CT I have installed the
Deutsche Linux-Distribution DLD-5.2 Debian 2.2 Potato
Recently I changed to
Debian/GNU Linux 2.2 aka Potato Debian 3.0r6 SargeFrom Tony Chesser-Evans <tmchesser_at_gmail.com>: "Debian 3.0r6 works beautifully, if you don't have a CD-ROM for your machine. Use the 1.44 MB floppy images in the idepci section. You will have to make three floppies: rescue, root and drivers-1 (use rawrite or dd to copy the images to floppy). Boot from the rescue floppy, and follow the instructions. PCMCIA is supported (use the Intel option), and most modern Ethernet cards will work. If you have a broadband internet connection, you can use these three floppies and the internet to go straight to an up-to-date Debian installation (note: the kernel with this version supports ext3 filesystems, while earlier releases only supported ext2). It takes a while, as these tend to be slow machines and there is a LOT of stuff to install, but it does work. With previous versions I had to use some floppy images and PLIP to get my Omnibook running. I was SO happy to see this one support the PCMCIA and my Linksys ethernet card. Made things much faster." Jason Theis reported some infos for SuSE and Redhat: Clean install of Suse 8.0 (only): Create the bootdisk, modules1, modules2, and modules3 using rawrite. Stick the bootimage disk in the drive. Follow the instructions until it asks you to put CD #1 one. From there everything installs like a dream. Even installed Ximian-gnome and everything works great! Clean install of Redhat 7.2 (only): Create boot.img using rawrite. Boot the machine with the disk in the floppy. Automatically detects your scsi cdrom (if you have the power on) and installs the valid drivers. From there it will start in text mode but then moves into graphical mode after you put the first cd in. The install works so nice. install packages seem bigger than suse but it depends on how you setup your machine (of course). Haven't done ximian but I am positive that will install without any difficulties. Special notes: Make sure the cdrom is plugged in and the power is on (my cdrom didn't automatically turn on) when you turn the machine on with the boot disk in. HardwaresurveyGeneral Hardware Data586CPU/100MHz/16MB/810MB, HP Omnibook 800CT (TFT), 39.42 BogoMIPS (2.0.35) I suppose these data are also valid in appropriate form for the HP OmniBook 2000, 5500 and 5700. I use the machine nearly two years now and I'm quite satisfied by the quality of the laptop. Though I encountered three exceptions:
HarddiskGeneral Information
It is very easy to change the harddisk (up to 2GB are possible). The five according screws at the backside have to be openend with a TORX-6 screwdriver, than turn the machine, open the lid and lift the keyboard at the side of the display. Also this process is explained in the manual very clearly. Speed Tuning
32 Bit
-------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input----Random
-Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block-----Seeks-
K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /sec %CPU
1311 43.3 1260 12.1 616 15.3 1256 43.6 1425 13.6 25.8 2.3
16 Bit
-------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input----Random
-Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block-----Seeks-
K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /sec %CPU
1295 43.2 1268 14.2 596 20.1 1182 49.3 1433 24.7 25.8 4.0
For details about making your harddisk faster see
c't 22/98, S. 216: EIDE-Festplatten voll ausnutzen Installing a Bigger Hard DiskBy Tom Kennedy : "Although it's not officially supported, I've been using a 4GB drive with my HP OmniBook 800 for over a year now without problems (using the newest BIOS off the HP web page)." hda: IBM-DTCA-24090, 3909MB w/468kB Cache, CHS=993/128/63 ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 "Note that I don't speak for HP, and I don't work on any OmniBook products :) But I do use a HP OmniBook 800 with Debian :)" Cedric Adjih reported to me: The/my Omnibook 800CT (810) can use actually some hard-drive of 3 GB. I mention it, because the hot-line was a bit frightening "ATTENTION, it is not supported, we cannot at all guarantee that bigger hard-drive will work at all". Here more information, I've been using it for 6 months, with no problems:
[...]
Model=FUJITSU MHD2032AT, FwRev=1812
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw>15uSec Fixed DTR>10Mbs RotSpdTol>.5% }
RawCHS=6304/16/63, rkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=4
[...]
See also the page by Michael Ashley
Tony Godshall
wrote:
"I have successfully installed IBM 20GB hard drives on my HP
OB800 CT and have been running this config on two OB800's
for about three months. These are at a great price point
right now: ~$120USD (see http://www.pricewatch.com). (My system is
Debian/GNU-Linux stable + some testing). IBM's BIOSSystem Soft BIOS for Eagle II Version 1.01 (Software Version 2.00.00). The
latest version is 2.01.00 and works without problems. The available BIOS
settings you may find a the
HP support Y2K Hype aka Millenium Bug HypeI checked the BIOS with the following dates and it seems to work alright:
**) beyond 32 Bit border Source: Linux-Magazin Memory (RAM)I checked memory and cache with
CTCM16N.EXE
PROZESSOR- und CACHE-INF c't 5/98/ Andreas Stiller V1.6n
Prozessor Timing : Pentium,Pentium-MMX
Prozessor CPUID : GenuineIntel Typ=00 Fam=05 Mod=07 Rev=00 Feat=000001BF
Prozessor Name : PentiumVRT mA4-Step
Aktueller Takt : 98.788 MHz, gemäss Pentium Timer:98.820 MHz
Primär-Cache(L1) : 8 KByte,2fach assoziativ
Sekundär-Cache(L2): 256 KByte,direct mapped
Code Cache (L1) : 8 KByte,2fach assoziativ
Hauptspeicher : 16 MByte,keine Memory holes gefunden
Cacheable Area L1 : 16MByte, keine noncacheable Areas gefunden
Cacheable Area L2 : 16MByte, keine noncacheable Areas gefunden
Write Strategie L1: Write Back, no Write Allocation, linear Fill
Write Strategie L2: Write Back, no L2 Flush (wbinvd)
Dirty Tag L2 : ok
Datenfluss- und Bus Performance (Hauptspeicher: 00111000h) :
Beste Zeit für 8K MOVSD Cache/Page Hit : 20.8 æs => 393.1 MByte/s
mittlere " für 8K MOVSD (Miss + Hit) : 158.5 æs => 51.7 MByte/s
mittlere " für 8K MOVSD (L2 clean) : 205.5 æs => 39.9 MByte/s
mittlere " für 8K MOVSD (L2 dirty) : 287.3 æs => 28.5 MByte/s
schlechteste " 8K MOVSD (misses) : 389.5 æs => 21.0 MByte/s
via FPU 8K (misses) : 389.4 æs => 21.0 MByte/s
im Mittel bei 256 KB L2-Cache /DOS(640K): 173.3 æs => 47.3 MByte/s
im Mittel bei 256 KB L2-Cache /Win(4M ): 215.9 æs => 37.9 MByte/s
It is very easy to upgrade the memory (up to 48MB). The access to the memory
slot is quite simple. The process is explained in the manual very clearly.
Norman Peterson -ncphd_at_bellatlantic.net- reported a working memory module from
PNY SCSIThe HP OmniBook 800 is one of the few laptops with an built-in SCSI port (the only other ones I know are the TI Travelmate 5000 series). It works alright with the Symbios-Logic ncr53c8xx PCI-SCSI-Bridge. To play music CD's it is necessary to connect the sound output of the CD player to the sound input of the laptop with a separate cable, but I didn't try this yet. Unfortunately the SCSI port has a proprietary plug. You have to buy a special HP-SCSI cable (approx. 50 US$). This is available in two sorts, the cheaper one (Product-Nr. F1182A) is good enough. If you buy the HP OmniBook 800 CD drive a SCSI cable is included. PCMCIAThe PCI-PCMCIA controller TI113x is compatible with i82365sl, it is detected
by PCMCIA=yes PCIC=i82365 PCIC_OPTS="cmd_time=12" CORE_OPTS="cis_speed=500" CARDMGR_OPTS="q" # quite mode, doesn't beep A test with a PCMCIA network card (RPTI-EP401 Ethernet Card) was successful. Also CardBus cards work.
With kernel 2.4.0-test8 I used the CardBus option in the BIOS and this
PCMCIA=yes PCIC=yenta_socket PCIC_OPTS="" CORE_OPTS="cis_speed=500" CARDMGR_OPTS="q" # quite mode, doesn't beep Excursion: MS-Window$95
The Window$95 driver for this networkcard seems to
be one of the most wanted drivers searched for in the WWW. Many people look at
this site because the RPTI-EP401 is mentioned. The Window$95 driver you may
find at RPTI
Graphics-ChipNeoMagic NM2070, 896KB, is not detected by XFree86 3.3.6The NeoMagic chipset now has support in XFree86 (since 3.3.5). It is included in the SVGA driver. This works well up to 800x600 (x65536). A detailed list of parameters is in the according README in the /usr/doc section. XFree86 4.x
I have installed the according Debian packages, but no time to make the
right Gregory Mounie <gmounie_at_cs.vu.nl> wrote: "This is information on the way I get a working HP 800 (CT) with XFree86-4.0.3 at a resolution of 800x600 for updating the HP 800 page. I did not find this information anywhere save in *one* email of the xfree-neomagic mailing list ("progLCDModeRegs" option seems to be undocumented). The only point to get XFree86-4.0.x working is that you need to set up some options in the section:
Section "Device"
Driver "neomagic"
# This first option removes the flickering of the screen at 800x600
Option "progLCDModeRegs"
# Others options remove "ghosts" from the screen (any resolution)
# One way is to remove directly acceleration
Option "no_accel"
# or to use shadow frame buffer
# (this option seems to disable acceleration too)
Option "ShadowFB"
# may be some xaa option can do the same ?
Cory Bell <cory.bell_at_usa.net> "The rolling LCD at 800x600 was killing me, but the "progLCDModeRegs" was just what I needed. I also experienced the same video corruption you mentioned when acceleration was enable, but I found a way to disable just the XAA feature that was causing the problem. Machine - HP OmniBook 800CT w/NM2070 (896K) XFree86 Version - 4.0.3 (RedHat 7.1)
By running
In the
XFree86 4.1.0 docs Andi Gohr the new owner of my former machine provides
latest information on XFree86 4.x XVideo
Recently the XFree86 Resolutions/Color DepthsPossible combinations of resolutions and color depths. 60Hz 16 256 16bit 640x480 x x - 800x600 x x x 1024x768 x - - Benchmark
Sorry no NeoMagic X-Server
This
NeoMagic X-Server VBE
The
VBE driver FramebufferThe kernel 2.4.0 recognizes a VGA frame buffer device. Text mode works with 640x480 (vga=769) and 800x600 (vga=771), so you get a console screen of 100x37. XFree86 4.0.2 works in framebuffer mode 800x600!
Please check the latest release of
DirectFB AcceleratedX
The commercial X-Server LX31 by Xi Graphics RedHat (XBF)
At RedHat SciTechThe commercial SciTech External Display
Attention: Please use the right settings for your monitor, it could be damaged easily.
Tested with SONY 200sf monitor. The external
display was tested with the I did a quick check with a XGA Hitachi CP-X960 beamer, worked in text and graphics mode. But with slightly distorted colours in graphics mode (this can probably be fixed). Note: I had to switch to the beamer display by using the <Fn><Print> function key combination (toggle). The beamer needs a few seconds to adjust to the new signals. Text Mode 100x37
Please note that you may use the framebuffer setting Cedric Adjih reported: "An apparently little known fact about Neomagic chipset is that you can run a text mode in 100x37 (i.e. 800x600)." His report is now separated into the appendix of the Linux-Mobile-Guide. It may work faster (untested!), than framebuffer mode, but seems more difficult to install. SoundSoundblaster and SoundblasterPro16-Bit compatible,
ESS
Quote from the support page of ESS Summary Parameters of AudioDrive Audio Controllers
Kernel Sound Driver
From the page
Linux on the HP Omnibook 800 by Nathan Meyers (note this site
will be no longer available) I got the following
configuration details and modified them slightly. You have to check the
parameters against your current BIOS setting. I tried them without MIDI in a
non-modularized 2.0.35 kernel. They work fine with the packages
Please note - the size of the DMA buffer is a crucial point, when I choosed
the default value 65536 the soundcard didn't work! I got a hint from Xavier
Redon, who uses a size of 32768. I suppose you can increase this value with
newer models. Probably you have to use CONFIG_SOUND=y CONFIG_AUDIO=y CONFIG_MIDI=y CONFIG_YM3812=y CONFIG_SB=y CONFIG_ADLIB=y SBC_BASE=220 SBC_IRQ=5 SBC_DMA=1 SB_DMA2=5 SB_MPU_BASE=330 SB_MPU_IRQ=11 DSP_BUFFSIZE=32768 For my 2.2.7 kernel I couldn't find the DSB_BUFFSIZE option in ... /* * Use always 64k buffer size. There is no reason to use shorter. * changed (64*1024) to(32*1024) -wh- */ ...
Tony Chesser-Evans wrote: "I get a horrific amount of feedback through the
built-in microphone in the case, because of the speaker in the bottom of the
case. The only way I've found around it is to fire up a mixer program (e.g.
Ron Yorston <rmy_at_tigress.co.uk> wrote:
"I've looked at the
kernel source and have found that the initial values of the mixer settings
are in Andi Gohr the new owner of my former machine provides
latest information on sound with 2.4.x
Michael White wrote:
It works with RedHat 8.0! No kernel rebuilds. No hacking of files.
Just a couple things: OpenSoundSystem - OSSI tried a demo version of the commercial OSS-Linux sound driver by
4Front Technologies Advanced Linux Sound Architecture - ALSA
I couldn't check
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture - ALSA After a hard nights testing I finally got the ALSA to work with my omnibook 800 ct 133 Mhz. I must say that (for me) it works alot better than the kernel stuff which never made with mp3:s. I use the following: RH 7.2 2.4.16 kernel lilo boot-loader (make sure you compile OSS-module support in to the kernel) Quick cook book recipe: download and extract the alsa-driver, alsa-lib and alsa-utils tarballs. in the alsa-driver dir configure with following options: ./configure --with-isapnp=yes --with-oss=yes --with-cards=es1688 make make install
Configure and make the lib and the utils, it's straight forward. Put the
following lines in your modules file, i.e. # Alsa portion options snd snd_major=116 snd_cards_limit=1 alias snd-card-0 snd-card-es1688 options snd-card-es1688 snd_port=0x220 snd_dma8_size=32 snd_dma8=1 snd_irq=5 # OSS portion alias snd-slot-0 snd-card-0 alias char-major-14 soundcore alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss I have absolutely no idea what the OSS portions does or if some lines are obsololete but it works. Next make sure you don't have any pcmcia modules loaded (lsmod), you have to insert the sound modules before the pcmcia. "/etc/init.d/pcmcia stop" works sometimes:) "modprobe snd-card-es1688" loads the alsa modules, et voila! IMPORTANT the alsa-driver is muted by default, start the alsamixer (in the utils pakage) to set the volume. This can easily be scripted away. alsa-driver-0.5.12a alsa-lib-0.5.10b alsa-utils-0.5.10 Infrared Port - IrDA(TM)Standard IrDA - SIRThese laptop doesn't use the common routine for the initialisation of the SIR port as a serial port emulation. Therefore you need a dedicated IrDA driver (SIR/FIR) , which is provided in Kernels >= 2.4.9 Fast IrDA - FIR
The PCI - IrDA(TM) controller VL82C147 manufactured by VLSI is FIR capable.
Since Kernel 2.4.9 there is a dedicated Linux driver available.
Andi Gohr the new owner of my former machine provides
latest information on FIR and SIR You may read more about Linux and Infrared in my Linux-Infrared-HOWTO . IR Remote
I had no success yet to get the machine sending or receiving IR remote control
commands. For Linux information see the
LIRC Parallel Port
Parallel port works fine with Mouse
The unique and funny Pop-Up-Mouse (two buttons) uses the PS/2 protocol
(/dev/psmouse). It is located at the right side of the laptop, maybe a problem
for the lefthanded. The
Recently with 2.4.x kernels and Debian WOODY the mouse no longer works in GPM mode,
but in X. Very strange! As a remedy you may use an older version of CDI use an external SCSI-CD-Rom. But not the original one by HP, this seems to expensive and to slow. Peter Sprenger reported to me: I got the genuine CD-ROM and so far I was not able to run it ... the device keeps on resetting until it starts to rattle so loud that it scares you, I guess it is a missing kernel parameter. Michael Wiedmann reported the genuine CD drive working in the docking station without any problems. FloppydriveReliabilityThe floppy drive broke after 18 months, I got always CRC errors, when booting from a floppy. And writing a normal floppy became unreliable. But the drive was changed by HP with no problems. superformatI couldn't get the floppydrive to #superformat /dev/fd0 sect=21 cyl=83 floppy0: sector not found: track 0, head 0, sector 1, size 2 floppy0: sector not found: track 0, head 0, sector 1, size 2 end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 0 floppy0: sector not found: track 0, head 0, sector 3, size 2 floppy0: sector not found: track 0, head 0, sector 3, size 2 end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 2 The floppydrive used with the Toshiba Portege seems to be the same model. I tried to get further info but didn't succeed yet, because most of the Toshiba sites and newsgroups are in Japanese. Maybe someone can help out with this information? Brandon Davis <brdavis9_at_pacbell.net> wrote: "I do know that the external floppy for the OB600/800 is the same floppy (pretty much, anyway: the eject button is different) that is used in the IBM ThinkPad 560 ...I hooked up my HP floppy to my wife's TP560 and it worked just fine." When building a rescue floppy with
muLinux Finally I found a Linux solution, too. I have set up this drive0: deviation=656500 I found out that It worked for me but there are no guarantees. You should read the according information of the fdutils package carefully. CRC ErrorsSometimes but not always I get CRC errors when booting from floppy-images,
which I prepared with Peter Sprenger recommends to use the kernel parameter 'floppy=omnibook', he never noticed the crc error; without he had it once. Instead of 'omnibook' you may also use 'floppy=nodma' which has the same effect. But for me this doesn't help. From a DOS tool I know the floppy controller is a PNP0700, which is the generic (standard) one. The proprietary HP OmniBook floppy controller is PNP0605. Also I have got reports about disabling the cache might help, I will try this later. ID = 0x0007D041 = 'PNP0700' -- Std. FDC (765 type) Types: Base = 0x01, Sub = 0x02, Interface = 0x00 Mass Storage, FDC (765 type), Generic Floppy KeyboardAfter half a year of usage the keyboard controller broke. When typing a letter another letter appeared at random on the screen, especially lower and upper case were mixed unpredictecaly. Can you imagine to type in the correct password :) HP repaired it in a short time (3 weeks) without complaint. But the error seems to return sometimes, but to seldom to complain about. Besides this the keyboard works fine. There is only one LED to show the
power status. The status of NUM, CAPS and SCRL may be displayed in a small
auxiliary display in one of the four display corners, by toggling
<Fn><ESC>. With XFree86 this status display doesn't work, but with
the XBF server it works fine. Also in text mode Advanced Power Management (APM)The BIOS supports APM version 1.2 .The kernel function Power-Off-On-Shutdown
(CONFIG_APM_POWER_OFF) works alright. The other functions I couldn't test yet.
The APM of the BIOS works with Linux too and goes into power save mode when the
choosen time is elapsed. I haven't installed the 'apm' package anymore, but I
guess Peter Sprenger reported: APM does work fine -- no problems at all! One minor problem: When removing the power plug at the far side from the machine I get this error and usually can't recover my work: hda: lost interrupt
hda: read_intr: status=0x50 { DriveReady SeekComplete }
If I pull the power plug at the machine side everthing goes well. BatteryBattery (Lithium Ion) works 2 hours for each charge cycle, charge time 1 hour. Real Time Clock (RTC)RTC is detected by the kernel and shows up in /proc/rtc. Survey PCI Devices
*) aka Symbios Logic 8100S (info from the device manager in Window$95) Sources:
Docking StationI don't use a docking station.They seem really expensive and I can't see any usefulness. I would like to buy a PC instead and connect it via network to the laptop. Or use an external display, which works well as described above, and an external keyboard and mouse. From Martin J. Evans You may want to build support for you docking station hardware as modules instead of putting it directly into the kernel. This will save space in your kernel but your choice probably largely depends on how often you are docked." Peter Sprenger reported to me: I got a docking station and I was able to make a kernel virtually out of the box, the only problem you have is the un-docking for the following reason: the BIOS is programmed that, if your detach a SCSI-device, automatically reboots the computer. It is not a disaster, but it then takes some time to re-sync the hard disk. The question is whether we could convince HP to produce a BIOS patch, for us 'LINUXER', that allows detaching without a reboot. Michael White wrote: "If you use the docking station along with the PCI card slot in the docking station, Linux (at least Redhat 7.2) will only load one PCMCIA card, complaining of "RequestIRQ: Resource in use". I've tried this with several card combinations, all of which produce the same result. If the upper and lower (or only the upper) card is plugged in, only the upper card that will be initialized (but both will be recognized). If only the lower card is plugged in, the lower card will be recognized. If you remove the upper card and insert the lower card, the lower card will be initialized. Note that I've tried the work-arounds on the PCMCIA How-to page, and the options that are recommended are not recognized by the Yenta driver." I got a docking station lent recently. Its features are:
Output from 00:00.0 Host bridge: VLSI Technology Inc 82C535 (rev 03) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VLSI Technology Inc 82C534 (rev 03) 00:02.0 Unknown class [ff00]: VLSI Technology Inc 82C532 (rev 02) 00:03.0 VGA [..]: Neomagic Corporation NM2070 [MagicGraph NM2070] [..] 00:04.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1130 (rev 04) 00:04.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1130 (rev 04) 00:06.0 Unknown class [0d00]: VLSI Technology Inc 82C147 (rev 02) 01:00.0 SCSI [..] : Symbios Logic Inc. (formerly NCR) 53c810 [..] 01:05.0 ISA bridge: VLSI Technology Inc 82C538 01:06.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557 (rev 01) AFAIK the docking station can only be released from the notebook, if the power is on, by pressing the release button. Models of the HP OmniBook 800
HP OmniBook Survey (All Models)
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